tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37949944.post6555515688873688368..comments2023-05-05T07:13:41.889-04:00Comments on Corruption-free Anguilla: Self-DeterminationUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37949944.post-71070734238043730832007-08-11T04:53:00.000-04:002007-08-11T04:53:00.000-04:00On the question above about full internal self-gov...On the question above about full internal self-government, yes, the British have to agree to change the Constitution to give us the requisite guarantees, conditions, and checks and balances. In my view, real political, social and economic independence is a state of mind more than a political gimmick like "achieving independence." Which of us would want to be a member of a failed State like St Vincent or Dominica? The people of those islands are still enslaved by their poverty and abject dependence for survival on others. The employers, whether government or private, still exploit the people mercilessly. In Anguilla, even though a political colony of Britain, our people are liberated by our economic well-being, high standard of education, and independence of thought. What we need now are constitutional provisions to entrench those achievements.<BR/><BR/>IDMidmitchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08966173951425644722noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37949944.post-47145893462967772522007-08-11T04:48:00.000-04:002007-08-11T04:48:00.000-04:00On the question above about citizenship, no, the s...On the question above about citizenship, no, the severing of citizenship from belongership would not affect our citizenship. The view of the majority of persons who made representations to the Commission on the subject was that citizenship should remain, but that it should not be connected to the concept of who was an Anguillian. Anguillians over the centuries have had to take out many citizenships. What the Commission accepted was that citizenship should not be connected in any way to Anguillianness.<BR/><BR/>IDMidmitchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08966173951425644722noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37949944.post-79488599592402947702007-08-10T13:34:00.000-04:002007-08-10T13:34:00.000-04:00So are you saying that:1. Anguilla already has the...So are you saying that:<BR/><BR/>1. Anguilla already has the right to self-determination?<BR/><BR/>2."Full internal self government" is something that cannot be granted by the British (or any other) government because it is created through the laws and practices in Anguilla?<BR/><BR/>If so, it sounds like it is the content of the Anguillian constitution/laws and the ways that citizens operate on a day-to-day basis that determine whether Anguilla is self-governing. And that this would be true no matter what the relationship to the British or other nations. <BR/><BR/>3. And if that is true, Anguilla's status of colony/associate/independent nation is more a matter of how Anguillians want to perceive and represent themselves to the world (rather than a determinant of the way citizens live their lives)?<BR/><BR/>Am I mistaken? What am I missing?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37949944.post-26581934800295227062007-08-10T13:16:00.000-04:002007-08-10T13:16:00.000-04:00I've been reading the August 2006 Report of the Co...I've been reading the August 2006 Report of the Constitutional and Electoral Reform Commission. <BR/>Would enactment of provision 173. "British Nationality Acts," conflict in any way with Anguillians' right to British citizenship?<BR/><BR/>See:<BR/>173. British Nationality Acts. By far the great majority of persons consulted<BR/>desire that the BNA provisions be severed from the Belonger provisions of<BR/>our Constitution, and the Commission so recommends. (p. 80) <BR/><BR/>and<BR/><BR/>20 By the British Overseas Territories Act 2002, c 8 of 2002 British Citizenship was conferred on<BR/>all British Overseas Territories Citizens so that Anguillians enjoy both types of British citizenship. (footnote on p. 60)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37949944.post-50646853437309164322007-08-09T14:17:00.000-04:002007-08-09T14:17:00.000-04:00"Proscribe ...benchmarks".Forgive me for the "inte..."Proscribe ...benchmarks".<BR/>Forgive me for the "intended" maloprop. My innate nature for sarcasm had surfaced.<BR/><BR/>The intended message being :- these bench marks are so basic and fundamental, that they not having been put in place, could only have been intentional. In addition, the powers that be and have been, whilst calling for good governance, have placed obstacles and red herrings in the path of the implementation of the said benchmarks. <BR/>Again my apologies.<BR/>Caribbean ManAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37949944.post-48439728645086979602007-08-08T16:02:00.000-04:002007-08-08T16:02:00.000-04:00The British most certainly CAN say associated stat...The British most certainly CAN say associated status is not an option. In fact, they have done exactly that, and they don't sound like they're joking. What is your basis for saying they can't do this?<BR/><BR/>The British do not torture prisoners, although there are indications that Anguillians have done so in the recent past.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37949944.post-72797339588735110302007-08-08T15:08:00.000-04:002007-08-08T15:08:00.000-04:00The Britishcannot say that associated status is no...The Britishcannot say that associated status is not an option. They are only trying to fool the uninformed.<BR/><BR/>Or maybe, I am wrong. The British are still tourtouring prisoners..right?<BR/><BR/>So they do not have to obey the rules of the united nations when it does not suit their purpose.<BR/><BR/>What a bunch of hypocrites!!!<BR/><BR/>Is this site sensored?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37949944.post-89592670939430866282007-08-08T13:32:00.000-04:002007-08-08T13:32:00.000-04:00All the benchmarks in Option 4b are proscribed? L...All the benchmarks in Option 4b are proscribed? Lod, we better off being led by criminals, dummies and sheep than educated fools. <BR/><BR/>You'll have to excuse me, it's time for my daily shouting at the wind.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37949944.post-10945216800678917472007-08-08T12:40:00.000-04:002007-08-08T12:40:00.000-04:001) I left room for errors in my thoughts, to be co...1) I left room for errors in my thoughts, to be corrected. I will note the barb but not take the bait on Association. <BR/>2) what the UK will /will nt accept is not the pertinent question.What we are prepared to stand behind is the issue, in the quest for our Self-determined path.<BR/>3)No constructive analysis or critique of option 4b was offered. You are in agreement/disagreement with its direction? Where ought I redirect my conditions.<BR/>Caribbean Man<BR/>Belonger.C.HAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37949944.post-1356888332211442112007-08-08T10:28:00.000-04:002007-08-08T10:28:00.000-04:00The whole point about self determination is that i...The whole point about self determination is that it is nothing to do with independence. It is about deciding for ourselves what we want for our political future. It is self determination for us to decide that we do not want independence. The only problem is if the FCO tries to tell us what sort of government we ought to have. If the FCO forces us into independenct that is not self determination.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37949944.post-13549929788238871592007-08-08T09:44:00.000-04:002007-08-08T09:44:00.000-04:00It is misleading and deceptive for selfish politic...It is misleading and deceptive for selfish political opportunists to continue insisting that associated status is a real option for Anguilla. It is an option acceptable to the United Nations. So is my marrying some famous movie star, but unless she agrees to the marriage, I'm just showing off and deceiving those around me. The UK has clearly and repeatedly stated that associated statehood is not an option. What other country is looking for new colonies to support? China? Iran? Zimbabwe? Jamaica? How about St. Kitts? No, once was enough. This would be laughable if it weren't so annoying.<BR/><BR/>What is this, "Talk Yer Mind," where we get to compete with each other to see who can say the most stupidness? I thought this was a serious blog.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37949944.post-24482582976351972002007-08-07T13:41:00.000-04:002007-08-07T13:41:00.000-04:00Whether the British are trying to prevent/deny our...Whether the British are trying to prevent/deny our independence or subtly discourage our dependence/independence, it is our prerogative to choose, and choose we will. Your vote for/against or your no vote will be considered a vote.<BR/>The choices are, unless I am mistaken, the following :-<BR/>1) REMAIN a colony/BOT/Department<BR/>2) Associate with Britain<BR/>3) Associate with another Country or goup of Countries<BR/>4) a}Independence after a proscribed time period<BR/>4) b}Independence after a set of proscribed social, infrstructural, governmental, legislative BENCHMARKS are reached.[ THESE BENCH MAKS TO GUIDED BY OUR belonger MEMBERS OF THE BAR but selected by the voting public, through a referendum, listing each benchmark].<BR/><BR/>Without doubt I would choose 4b. This would provide future generations an opportunity to determine their direction,after having exprienced the position of acquired and in action FULL INTERNAL SELF GOVERNMENT.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37949944.post-15633410754453210772007-08-07T07:57:00.000-04:002007-08-07T07:57:00.000-04:00If there is no dispute about our right to self det...If there is no dispute about our right to self determination, why do so many opposition politicians (and political hopefuls posing as simple patriots) claim the British are trying to prevent our independence, and their claims to the contrary are lies?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com